19 Replies Last post: Aug 1, 2009 1:43 AM by Ray Krueger  
Sebastian  Newbie 25 posts since
Nov 2, 2008
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Jun 22, 2009 9:32 PM

Regular crashes on Mac OS

Hello,

 

since IntelliJ 8.1.x (I used all versions up to 8.1.2 so far) IntelliJ crashes regularly when invoking tasks like running, building or sometimes even formatting. It is a kind of random behaviour and incredible annoying. This is far away from the stability, I used to have with 8.0 or even the 8 prerelase versions. The crashes happens about 2 to 4 times per day.

 

I attached the mac crash information and the idea.log of the last crash.

 

Java Version is

java version "1.6.0_13"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_13-b03-196)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 11.3-b02-77, mixed mode)

 

Best Regards

 

Sebastian

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Dmitry Jemerov JetBrains 9,655 posts since
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Jun 23, 2009 12:47 PM in response to: Sebastian
Re: Regular crashes on Mac OS

Hello Sebastian,

 

Note that the officially supported JDK on MacOS X is still only JDK 1.5,

not JDK 1.6.

 

The crashes happen inside the Apple AWT code, so it definitely looks like

the bug is in the latest Apple Java update, not in IntelliJ IDEA.

 

Here's a log for a crash of a completely different app in the same location:

https://jira.jboss.org/jira/secure/attachment/12321203/JavaNativeCrash_pid4311.crash.log

 

since IntelliJ 8.1.x (I used all versions up to 8.1.2 so far) IntelliJ

crashes regularly when invoking tasks like running, building or

sometimes even formatting. It is a kind of random behaviour and

incredible annoying. This is far away from the stability, I used to

have with 8.0 or even the 8 prere

 

lase versions. The crashes happens about 2 to 4 times per day.

 

I attached the mac crash information and the idea.log of the last

crash.

 

Java Version is

java version "1.6.0_13"

Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_13-b03-196)

Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 11.3-b02-77, mixed mode)

Best Regards

 

 

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Dmitry Jemerov

Development Lead

JetBrains, Inc.

http://www.jetbrains.com/

"Develop with Pleasure!"

 

 

 

Leszek Gruchala Novice 105 posts since
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Jun 23, 2009 10:55 PM in response to: Sebastian
Re: Regular crashes on Mac OS

I can say that since I'm using Java 6, IDEA takes more memory but it's faster. And any crash at all. Just various EAP build issues.

Kris Dunn Newbie 1 posts since
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Jun 26, 2009 10:17 PM in response to: Sebastian
Re: Regular crashes on Mac OS

I am seeing the same type of issue. The "find in path" window stops coming up when envoked (after 1st or 2nd use), doesn't crash, just doesn't work until I restart.

 

I have seen the same issue running under Java 1.6 and 1.5 (IDEA 8.1.2 and 8.1.3).

Mark Petrovic Newbie 5 posts since
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Jun 30, 2009 9:28 PM in response to: Dmitry Jemerov
Re: Regular crashes on Mac OS

Good morning.

 

Thought I would add my 2cents of data to this thread.

 

I'm on my second crash this morning (and maybe a dozen crashes over the last few weeks), and have lost a bit of work both times, as if the editor is not autosaving in the run-up to the crash.

 

Intellij version:  8.1.3  (build 9886)

 

with

 

$ java -version
java version "1.6.0_13"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_13-b03-211)
Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 11.3-b02-83, mixed mode)

 

Under OS X 10.5.7

Guest
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Jul 1, 2009 12:49 PM in response to: Mark Petrovic
Re: Regular crashes on Mac OS

If it's a VM crash you are experiencing, there is no "run-up to the crash".

The whole Java process will die completely without warning or the chance

for IDEA to do anything about it. Other than when you manually trigger a

'Save All', IDEA only saves at certain times like frame deactivation, so

yes you will lose some of your recent changes if the VM rug gets pulled out

from under you. Perhaps try enabling Local History, AFAIK that checkpoints

quite frequently and might reduce the amount of work you lose. The real problem

of course is the poor state of Java on OSX and that doesn't seem to be something

that Apple is going out of its way to address.

 

 

Good morning.

 

Thought I would add my 2cents of data to this thread.

 

I'm on my second crash this morning (and maybe a dozen crashes over

the last few weeks), and have lost a bit of work both times, as if the

editor is not autosaving in the run-up to the crash.

 

Intellij version:  8.1.3  (build 9886)

 

with

 

$ java -version

java version "1.6.0_13"

Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_13-b03-211)

Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 11.3-b02-83, mixed mode)

Under OS X 10.5.7

 

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http://www.jetbrains.net/devnet/message/5240990#5240990

 

 

 

Mark Petrovic Newbie 5 posts since
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Jul 11, 2009 9:04 PM in response to: Chris Miller
Re: Regular crashes on Mac OS

I don't know how frequently the IDE automatically saves edit buffers (maybe essentially instantly for every key-up), but I have noticed that at some point prior to the crash, the edit buffer stops being saved to disk.  So, e.g., changes I made to the edit buffer 30s or 1m ago may not appear in the file that was being edited when I restart the IDE after the crash.  That's what I meant by run-up:  a time period greater than what I perceive to be the time it takes for the edit buffer to be saved to disk under normal conditions.  I've seen this lost-work effect a half dozen times since the crashes started, although I do not always necessarily lose work on crash.  And I don't know if this information is helpful or not; I offer it in case it is.

Ross Mason Newbie 2 posts since
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Jul 31, 2009 2:32 PM in response to: Dmitry Jemerov
Re: Regular crashes on Mac OS

Hi,

 

While I understand this is not the fault of JetBrains, can you suggest a work around for users on OS X?  I'm having serveral crashes a day using JDK 1.5 and it's becoming unbearable.

 

Cheers,

 

Ross

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Jul 31, 2009 4:57 PM in response to: Ross Mason
Re: Regular crashes on Mac OS

There should be a developer preview of Java available which fixes a couple

of bugs:

 

http://lists.apple.com/archives/Java-dev/2009/Jul/msg00349.html

 

Tom

 

Ross Mason Newbie 2 posts since
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Aug 1, 2009 1:11 AM in response to: Tom
Re: Regular crashes on Mac OS

Thanks Tom. I'll give it a go.  Though since I posted I found this: http://www.jetbrains.net/devnet/docs/DOC-1155

and IntelliJ has not crashed since (OSX JDK 5). So maybe I will not rock the boat unless it crashes again.

 

Cheers

Ray Krueger Newbie 8 posts since
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Aug 1, 2009 1:43 AM in response to: Tom
Re: Regular crashes on Mac OS

Installed that Mac OS java update this morning and so far so good. No crashes today.

Ray Krueger Newbie 8 posts since
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Jul 10, 2009 8:45 PM in response to: Sebastian
Re: Regular crashes on Mac OS

IDEA is crashing a few times a day for me now. Please don't make me use Eclipse, I'm hoping to be productive today

 

I haven't come up with a anything to get the repeated crashing to abate at all. Anyone have any ideas?

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Jul 10, 2009 9:22 PM in response to: Ray Krueger
Re: Regular crashes on Mac OS

What do you think Jetbrains can do if Apple releases buggy Java versions and

does not provide a way to install a different one?

 

Ray Krueger Newbie 8 posts since
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Jul 10, 2009 9:57 PM in response to: Tom
Re: Regular crashes on Mac OS

They could try and implement a work around, much like they do for clipboard problems in Linux. Thanks for the unhelpful follow up though.

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Jul 10, 2009 11:22 PM in response to: Ray Krueger
Re: Regular crashes on Mac OS

I'm sorry about your problems, but please don't blame Jetbrains but rather

Apple. Not just for the bugs, but also making it nearly impossible to

reinstall a previous, less-buggy Java.

 

Onno Scheffers Newbie 32 posts since
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Jul 11, 2009 4:34 PM in response to: Sebastian
Re: Regular crashes on Mac OS

Ever since I upgraded to 8.1.3 IntelliJ keeps crashing on me a couple of times a day when I make changes in an HTML file or TML file (Tapestry) while HTML preview is visible. I don't think this is related to the other complaints above though and I never had that problem in the 8.1.2 release.

Ray Krueger Newbie 8 posts since
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Jul 31, 2009 5:05 PM in response to: Onno Scheffers
Re: Regular crashes on Mac OS

Installing it now. Having Idea crash a minimum of 4 times a day and losing a little bit of work every time is getting kinda old.

I'll report back...

Mark Petrovic Newbie 5 posts since
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Jul 31, 2009 5:35 PM in response to: Ray Krueger
Re: Regular crashes on Mac OS

This may be superstitious, but I seem to have reduced the number of crashes/day by assiduously performing manual saves - Command-S.  Now I get perhaps a crash per day or so vs. half a dozen.  Hard to say whether this really helps, but it's worth a try.

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